Discussion Quotes: Peace be to you Bro. TilayeTadesse : its an interesting topic most Cristian’s wouldn’t dare to discuss about it, Dawkins is the high priest for his age of atheists, it is obvious the deceptions of the mind in state of professional atheist how far can go, All atheist deceivers are con men and all con men are schooled in the art of psychological warfare., because the thinking (mind-set, etc.) of the flesh [is] enmity (hostility; hatred) into God, even though God is to grate for them, when the mind is deceived, the error becomes like a mountain, it reminds me Albert Einstein “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” Jerry Coyne Ph.D. Professor, says that the national academy of scientists we can say most elite group of scientists of which 93% atheists or agnostics and regular scientists 67% are atheist or agnostics. If a particular area of science shows the beauty and the process of how God acts in the material world then why don’t most scientists believe in a higher power or say that there is no evidence of a higher power? The reason is simple: Chances are pretty much High that their parents were not theists or not one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ., and All scientists graduate from college and all colleges teach atheism and/or Evolution except those who have strong-personality thy end up loaded God complex.Over the last few centuries, our world society has come to believe that there exists a fundamental incompatibility which is the condition of two things being so different in nature as to be incapable of coexisting. Between faith and science. Fueled by the works of polemics like the blasphemy of them a god complexes’, to me all atheists are the synagogue of Satan b/c For to be carnally minded is death the deceptions of the mind can go to the lower state of Satan and become the devil or can go up to the highest state of mind to be spiritually minded in life and peace become Christ. Like Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Bill Maher etc …. There now reigns an assumption without any proof that people who believe in the invisible God are intellectually primitive, No surprise in that because the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God because his spirit is dormant: the result is that they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Faith, the substance of things hoped for, is pitted against science, the substance of things measured, tested, and proven. The greatest proof that you could possibly have that there is an invisible, spirit God, is the very fact that you even exist and are able to think critical thinking even ask such a question in the first place. You, your body with its trillions of trillions cells, your brain is one of the largest and most complex organs in the human body. It is made up of more than 100 billion nerves that communicate in trillions of connections called synapses, and your mind, is a mechanism unthinkably complex that it defies imagination. Within our own being, and within the bountiful creation surrounding us, there are billions of billions little universes that can only be the Intelligent Design of an awesome and extremely impressive Intelligent Designer. “1Cor 1:20. Where [is] a wise one? Where [is] a scribe (one learned in the Scriptures)? Where [is] a collaborating seeker (a co-investigator; a discusser; a learned sophist; a reasoner) of this age? Does not God prove (or: make) stupid (foolish; nonsensical) the wisdom (cleverness; learned skill) of this ordered arrangement (system; world)?” Of course I understand all atheist disciples wanna-be they love that stuff, Dawkins and others like him gives them what their itching ears want to hear! God however is always in control not the synagogue atheists or anyone else in their path. I feel God is even using Dawkins as well as others atheist as Evil decoration to “sift” people. We know it is God himself who sent this delusionists 2Thess 2:11. And because of this, God is continuously sending to them an in-working (operation) of wandering (being caused to stray) into them, to believe the lie, 12. to the end that all those not believing the truth, but rather approving (delighting) in injustice (the thing that is not right), may be separated (judged). Now the question is whether the Old Testament violence is justifiable and behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive by God. Professional atheist Richard Dawkins in his bestselling book The God Delusion, he refers to the God of the Old Testament as “a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser etc…” He carful should ask why is that God of the Old Testament so Violent when he is become love in NEW Testament? O well if we see it from eagle point of view it is understood the normal or acceptable vision for any human is 20/20. Eagles, contrasts, have retinas with cones and have a much deeper fovea a cone-rich structure in the back of the eye of the Eagle. eagles zoom in and out their vision b/c eagles have a much deeper fovea than human eyes have these give them a visual acuity of an impressive 20/5, or 20/4 which allows them to hunt even the tiny prey from hundreds of feet up in the air, now convert that example and make a formal application to yourself what it means to have deep insight being able to see or understand something clearly you can simply think of Jesus Christ.Now when we think of if Old Testament violence is justifiable we all know all highest degree WICKEDNESS have to be MET WITH PERFECT DIVINE JUSTICE if you see one example like the Amorites not only attempted to abort God’s plan of the age to come, but they also practiced a barbaric evil religion. They worshipped the pagan god Molech, and sacrificed innocent children to him by burning them in fire (Leviticus 18:21; Jeremiah 32:35). It was complete brutal savagery. And there’s more in it. There are only three ways in the universe, in the wisdom of the Almighty, to deal with evil — it must be either restrained, eliminated or it must be remedied. For all creation In Christ is found the eternal remedy. In Christ men are forgiven, cleansed, changed, transformed, and made whole by the power of His Life. But for every man outside of Christ the law remains even worst if you see like hoe God get violent you will justify it to, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah was great, and because their sin is very grievous God act, Abraham say That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? of course the Judge of all the earth do right!O well as I always say the notion God didn’t create #evil is a Christian Hoax; There are many things that God has created that are not a part of His “heart.” #Evil is not a part of God’s heart. The death of the wicked is nothing something God cherishes in His heart. Sin is not something that God endorses, yet He created all the circumstances for its use. God “created evil” (Isa. 45:7.) God does not create things that do #not serve a good purpose. By the way we have to understand, the word translated into “evil” in Isa. 45:7 is the #Hebrew word #ra, and it is the very same word translated hundreds and hundreds times as “evil” #throughout the Old Testament. Satan does play a role in the salvation of the human race. Satan is just one more “evil” that God uses in bringing many sons into glory. Some Christian have tried to show that Isa. 45:7 is speaking of “calamity” and not “evil.” Of the #nineteen times that the word “calamity” appears in the #Scriptures, it is #never#translated from the #Hebrew Word #ra, but usually is translated from the #Hebrew word, #ade.No one should believe and follow this unstable character; I will add few different perspective’s, this quotations are for your benefits on this matter:This quotation from Dr. Stephen Jones will create awareness to many “atheist Dawkins continues to push the envelope against a God-deluded world, proposing that cultivating and eating human “meat” might help society overcome its “taboo” against cannibalism.// https://tinysurl.com/TNghg //Commenting on an article from the UK’s Independent newspaper, which touts the benefits of lab-grown “clean meat,” Dawkins tweeted that perhaps something similar could be done with human flesh, which would assist western culture in shedding yet another irrational remnant of its Judeo-Christian roots.Dawkins said that eating lab-grown human meat would provide an “interesting test case for consequentialist morality versus ‘yuck reaction’ absolutism,” which keeps people from doing things just because they seem morally repugnant.This is what can happen when people reject God’s right to rule what He created and when they decide for themselves what is right or wrong. Cannibalism is forbidden in the food laws, because man is an unclean creature. He has no cloven hoof, he does not chew the cud, he has no fins nor scales, nor does he leap high (aspire toward God).We are only clean by the word that God has spoken (John 15:3). Obviously, Richard Dawkins prefers to remain an unclean creature, at least for the moment. In his ignorance he apparently thinks that human meat is clean just because it is edible. Someday he will wonder how he could have been so stupid.” End of quotation.Quotation John Simpson, “But are these criticisms valid? Is the God of the Old Testament a “moral monster” who arbitrarily commands genocide against innocent men, women, and children? Was His reaction to the sins of the Canaanites and the Amalekites a vicious form of “ethnic cleansing” no different from atrocities committed by the Nazis? Or is it possible that God could have had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations?A basic knowledge of Canaanite culture reveals its inherent moral wickedness. The Canaanites were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. The Canaanites’ sin was so repellent that God said, “The land vomited out its inhabitants” (Leviticus 18:25). Even so, the destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3-5, 12:2-3) than at the Canaanite people per se. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Individual Canaanites, like Rahab in Jericho, could still find that mercy follows repentance (Joshua 2). God’s desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than die (Ezekiel 18:31-32, 33:11).Besides dealing with national sins, God used the conquest of Canaan to create a religious/historical context in which He could eventually introduce the Messiah to the world. This Messiah would bring salvation not only to Israel, but also to Israel’s enemies, including Canaan (Psalm 87:4-6; Mark 7:25-30).It must be remembered that God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways—over 400 years (Genesis 15:13-16)! The book of Hebrews tells us that the Canaanites were “disobedient,” a word that implies moral culpability on their part (Hebrews 11:31). The Canaanites were aware of God’s power (Joshua 2:10-11, 9:9) and could have sought repentance. Except in rare instances, they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end.But didn’t God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behavior in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1-3). However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5, 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God, and God alone, can give life and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person’s life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God’s. While it is wrong for us to take a life, except in instances of capital punishment, war, and self-defense, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so. We intuitively recognize this when we accuse some person or authority who takes human life as “playing God.” God is under no obligation to extend anyone’s life for even another day. How and when we die is completely up to Him.Third, an argument could be made that it would have been cruel for God to take the lives of all the Canaanites except the infants and children. Without the protection and support of their parents, the infants and small children were likely to face death anyway due to starvation. The chances of survival for an orphan in the ancient Near East were not good.Finally, and most importantly, God may have provided for the salvation for those infants who would not have otherwise attained salvation if they had lived into adulthood. We must remember that the Canaanites were a barbarous and evil culture. If those infants and children had lived into adulthood, it is very likely they would have turned into something similar to their parents and been condemned to hell after they died. If all infants and young children who die before an age of moral accountability go straight to heaven (as we believe), then those children are in a far better place than if God had allowed them to live and grow to maturity in a depraved culture.Surely the issue of God commanding violence in the Old Testament is difficult. However, we must remember that God sees things from an eternal perspective, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9). The Apostle Paul tells us that God is both kind and severe (Romans 11:22). While it is true that God’s holy character demands that sin be punished, His grace and mercy remain extended to those who are willing to repent and be saved. The Canaanite destruction provides us with a sober reminder that while our God is gracious and merciful, He is also a God of holiness and wrath. End of quotation.Quotation from Everest John Alexander: “Violence itself is neither good nor bad. It took a lot of violence to stop Hitler from conquering the world and if you had to use violence to stop a rapist from attacking your 4 year old daughter I’m sure you wouldn’t hesitate.Therefore, allowing or encouraging violence is neither good nor evil, what matters is the motive and purpose of it.There is ‘just’ violence and there is ‘unjust’ violence, there is lawful violence and unlawful violence.Law Enforcement and Military Personnel are authorized to commit acts of violence in the lawful performance of their duties.Proverbs 6:16-17 lists 7 detestable things God specifically hates and among them is the shedding of innocent blood.That’s why the 6th commandment says, “You shall not murder.” Exodus 20:13What’s interesting is God’s response to murder.He said, “Human beings were made like God, so whoever murders one of them will be killed by someone else. Genesis 9:6Sometimes God’s answer to violence is more violence.The difference is, one is just and the other is unjust. One is right the other is wrong.So, what matters is not the violence itself but the motivation and the purpose of it.God does sometimes encourage violence but it is always motivated by love because God IS love and cannot act contrary to His nature. 1st John 4:8Plus, there is always the long-term purpose of saving human lives.In the Old Testament when God instructed Israel to kill every man, woman and child of certain cities, it’s usually because the inhabitants were so steeped in satanic worship that they became infested with demons and God knew there would be a transference of demonic spirits to the Israelites, thus corrupting the lineage of the promised Messiah.The second greatest act of violence in the history of human civilization was perpetrated by God Himself when He killed every last person on earth except for Noah and his family.The question is, why did He do it???He did it because at that time fallen angels took human form and had been impregnating human women, creating a half human half demon hybrid perversion called Nephilim. Genesis 6:1-5This went on for some time until eventually every human being was demonically contaminated. Genesis 6:11-12Satan’s goal was to completely pollute the human race and corrupt the gene pool so that the promised Messiah could not be born of a woman and become the Savior of the world. Genesis 3:15When God killed every contaminated human (probably a few million) and saved only those who weren’t polluted (Noah’s family – Genesis 6:9), He was ensuring the safety and security of the entire human race for eternity!One act of violence by God in answer to many acts of violence by sinful humans and fallen angels, in order to save Human Civilization.Lawful violence to reverse the works of unlawful violence.Which brings us to the actual greatest act of violence recorded in human history… The Passion of Jesus Christ at Calvary!Time and space will not allow me to go into details here but Jesus’ crucifixion is the single greatest act of violence the universe has ever seen and God condoned it for one purpose… to save YOU!So, when questioning why God condones violence, I recommend you think about that for a minute and consider the ramifications of it. End of quotation. I hope you enjoy it, God is with you! Brother Bini.